Good luck. #*CU(ZRz@mTfx(3n2-e17lg*e\C D(J You will be given a duplicate information form to be filled out at our office when you come in. I'm in Cheektowaga. I have taken the Firearms Safety course twice, both times taught by a New York State and NRA licensed instructor. <>/XObject<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>>
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I have prior knowledge that this reason has worked in the past. The real reason is that during hunting season I would like to be able to carry my pistol from hunting area to hunting area without having to unload and lock up my pistol every time I move. Disabled American Veteran, I Bled for my Country Well, I never got to submit my permit because I couldnt find 4 references in my town. A forum community dedicated to all New York firearm owners and enthusiasts. Erie County requires a "specific need" to be issued an unrestricted permit right off the bat. How did you receive an unrestricted pistol carry permit in Erie County? JavaScript is disabled. If anyone knows where I can find . Anything else I'm missing? During normal times though I think it's possible to get an unrestricted permit from any upstate county. MowKh1l-f+T%V)RfCr 0%hWHlmf+X5HuddJ+x;6]oV,N[mM
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I'm about to turn in my pistol permit application and from what I can tell, the current judge is more than willing to give an unrestricted permit if you can show that you have experience with firearms and have a legit reason to carry concealed. Gun safety is a number one priority for me and my family. ERIE COUNTY UPGRADE CLASS/ ERIE COUNTY UNRESTRICTED PISTOL PERMIT If you are looking to get restrictions removed from your Erie County Hunting/Target or Business restricted NY Pistol Permit: Our Advanced Handgun Firearm Safety Course (concealed carry class) is the answer. EMAIL: info@onlinegunsafetycourse.com stop at a walgreens and get passport photos taken. You will use your current address for the application. <>
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When asked my licensing officer and a county judge that I work with they said that theres only about 4-9 currently unrestricted licenses at the moment in the whole county, most of them are judges, attorneys and one dude has a legit unrestricted license because his life was being threatened and have all the paperwork to back it up and I best believe he shoots competition. | Sounds like it depends mostly on the judge you get than anything else. > x5\g Since over six months had passed we called the permit department . 0\%c~+QAufpl eYbB%A 1;dpXYs_AjG%M%(_p_gF*R0lulMVaxBYp>nZ$Kv$f,wg!'0)biWOHFq`2_.A=N=Js5#C`x|!Y%Kx>%{CwNbx:%- xLJa\,zJ)dcVCeB&b\Na8[kE2`Z[|w) jpl_Co>"Lz fXw1f8)CSky4v%q_M+ He will upgrade a permit after a few years or if you take a class, but you need a good reason to get one from the start. This will be required for concealed carry licenses issued on or after September 1, 2022. As of October 2020 town of Tonawanda is all 4 anywhere in Erie county. If you are looking to get restrictions removed from your Erie County Hunting/Target or Business restricted NY Pistol Permit: Our Advanced Handgun Firearm Safety Course (concealed carry class) is the answer. For more information, please see our I applied and it was upgraded in 2 months. Judges often don't give unrestricted anymore because they don't want people to think they're Rambo or something of that nature. Nearly everyone I know that put their paperwork in around the same time received unrestricted. Most upstate counties either issue unrestricted off the bat or have provisions to remove restrictions after a year or so. My question isnt about Erie Co. but i do have a related question about the NYS carry permit process. JavaScript is disabled. There have also been instances where a patient has a less than favorable outcome and the family blames me for that outcome. I live in the town that I work in and have a high risk of being recognized in public by these patients or family members while off duty. Can't you just roll with the standard blanket? Sucks, but getting better. A completed training course will suffice as evidence that you have both experience and knowledge of firearm safety. Pistol Permits | Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns Pistol Permits Pistol Permits Locations & Hours Buffalo Office: 92 Franklin Street, Buffalo, NY 14202 Monday - Friday 9:00 am - 5:00 pm Elma Town Hall : Wednesdays 9:00 am - 5:00 pm ( Plastic Permit Holders Only, Payment with Credit Card Only & Closed 1-2 for lunch ) New Applicants The clerk told me to use white out on the applications, correct the address and turn it in. Just a general "self defense" or "personal protection" isn't good enough with the sitting judge. Thought this might be helpful since Ive seen a lot of users recently asking about what to put in their just cause letter when applying for their pistol permit. The list of counties that don't issue unrestricted is much shorter than the list of counties that do. New Pistol Permit Application Process Applicant Requirements You must be at least 21 years of age and a resident of Erie County. Re-Certification Tuesday, June 21, 2022 pistol permit recertificattion. The Erie County Clerk's Office processes Pistol Permits for Erie County residents under terms of applicable New York State law. Good luck. Suffolk are not doing the permit process at the moment. You are not required to buy or own a gun at the time of application. I submitted my paperwork on 7/13. You may send a written notification or come to our office in person with your permit to effect the change. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. My wife and I applied for unrestricted NYS pistol permits back in august of 09. I say that because then he may say that you should apply for unrestricted once you complete it. Haven't found the answer? Though seldom, Suffolk does issue unrestricted. You should use your legal address, this is the address that you have your DL under. 3 0 obj
Following the receipt of a completed application as well as criminal & mental hygiene record checks, the approval or denial of a permit is the decision of the Erie County Supreme Court Justice who serves as the Licensing Officer. The restrictions are pretty vague. Erie County requires a "specific need" to be issued an unrestricted permit right off the bat. Firearms Instructors are required to self-certify in Erie County that they are a Duly Authorized Instructor pursuant to New York State Penal Law section 265.00(19) and that the course curriculum for the NYS Concealed Carry Firearm Safety Training they offer meets the requirements of New York State Penal Law section 400.00(19). and our Onondaga County could go either way, but I think they are starting to lean towards unrestricted. I had my interview approximately 2 months later. All do but the distance the State shoves its fist up our ass will vary. JavaScript is disabled. http://www2.erie.gov/clerk/sites/www2.erie.gov.clerk/files/uploads/pdfs/Upgrade_form.pdf, Handgun Maintenance, Cleaning and Gunsmithing. As for the 1.5 years for permit, they are getting a bit quicker, many of my customers are just under a year. You must give a proper reason for the issuance of the permit. This is the new 16 hour class, (Also called the 16+2 class or 18 hour class), that NY State now requires all NY State residents take to apply for a NY State Concealed Carry license. I got unrestricted. I am a Paramedic for xcompanyx and frequently transport unstable psychiatric patients (often involuntarily- NYS 9.41/9.45) who may be angry with the outcome of their treatment. <>
Erie County, NY- Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns announced the re-opening of the Erie County Pistol Department inside Elma Town Hall located at 1600 Bowen Road beginning March 16th. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. ITC,7RY,}mIC$
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To make the deal even sweeter I told him that Im changing jobs in the marines that Ill become Military Police and that if I did 10 years ill be protected under LEOSA to carry and SAFE-ACT and Suffolk themselves said.. no NY doesnt recognize that. Thanks for your help and advice in advance. Now just waiting for the judge to sign it and then I will be getting my first pistol. Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns Pistol Permits, Buffalo Office:92 Franklin Street, Buffalo, NY 14202 Monday - Friday 9:00am - 5:00pm, Elma Town Hall:Wednesdays 9:00am -1:00pm and 2:00pm -5:00pm (Plastic Permit Holders Only, Payment with Credit Card Only & Closed 1pm-2pm). "No person related to you now or ever" is the exact line they use. Possible yes. The office is to the left after you get through security. I think it means immediate but if its that far off I don't see them going that far to check. Im looking to get some opinions as to how my "reason" sounds for an unrestricted permit. I had my interview approximately 2 months later. People have used in-laws before or cousins and it has worked, but we would advise against it. [Strike out category which does not apply.] Why being so vague? NY city and surrounding counties for the most part. One had a good reason, not something a typical person would have, another just said "because I want it" and got lucky. Erie County Pistol Permit Timeline. I'll use the Buffalo address and pray that the BPD doesn't take their sweet ol time processing the interview/references. Well, my lazy ass has gotten the application finished up and ready to go, heading out to get the app notarized and then heading downtown to drop it off tomorrow. Probably easier to list the ones that dont. ?uZ5b0e%Vj
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Erie county has actually been pretty good about unrestricted off the bat the last few years from what I saw. An issue I have. The reason clearly states that it is for carry while off duty. | They also denied me from getting a bolt action AR pistol on my permit so yeah thats why I asked. Click on the link below for the required Forms & Instructions to apply for your Pistol Permit. Right now, no counties are issuing any kind of permit or amendment. I understand there are areas where carrying a firearm would be prohibited by state and/or federal law; which I intend to always abide by. Any individual who seeks to obtain a concealed carry license for a pistol or revolver will be required to take the 16-hour classroom and 2-hour live-fire firearm safety training course. Right now, no counties are issuing any kind of permit or amendment. Total turn around time of 14 weeks exactly. Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. Form Needed. (No Photo Copies) I am a special Ed teacher however I frequent the neighborhood in which I work during the weekends to shop and build community ties. New York Gun Permit Requirements. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Firearm safety was instilled in me from an early age. Does anybody know counties that issue Unrestricted permits in NY? I tried getting myself a fully carry but my licensing officer pretty much told me to go fuck myself and that no one get one its only restricted they permit. Even Albany county, which is probably one of the most anti . I received an unrestricted permit on the first try in Erie County (I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice). And if so would my military background and firearm courses qualify for unrestricted? Vouchers do not expire and can be transferred to anyone. I really don't want to chase these people down again-- was hard enough the first time. During normal times though I think it's possible to get an unrestricted permit from any upstate county. Otherwise your question is trollish Im thinking about moving upstate Im not sure which county yet but I can say Im leaning more into Orange County. He may simply see you as high risk, as someone potentially "more inclined than the average Joe" for taking the Law into your own hands and getting yourself into trouble. Such as the Intro to Concealed Carry Class, Home Defense Course and the M.D.T.S Live Fire Class offered by [company]. To me, that sounds reasonable, and Boller is supposed to be a reasonable guy (he's a shooter and a supporter of 2A - his reasons for issuing restricted to start in most cases are more that it's his name on the permit as well as yours than any kind of "gun control"). Its against company policy to carry on duty. 1 0 obj
Click HERE for a list of counties accepting our ONLINE Pistol Safety Courses. Erie County Clerk's Office PISTOL PERMIT DEPARTMENT 92 FRANKLIN STREET BUFFALO, NEW YORK 14202 (716) 858-8785 Option #3 C OUNTY OF E RIE MICHAEL P. KEARNS Erie County Clerk UPGRADE AFFIDAVIT - PPU REQUEST FOR PERSONAL and/or BUSINESS PROTECTION ON PISTOL PERMIT Employer D STATE OF NEW YORK SUPREME COURT: County of Erie Full Name You will use your current address for the application. New tot this forum. I had the exact same thing happen with one of my references. I submitted my paperwork on 7/13. As for the 1.5 years for permit, they are getting a bit quicker, many of my customers are just under a year. You'll get a more direct and helpful response by asking exactly what county you reside in and will apply. Ve-qW^?`vwF#5b;Qc`M[ChHE8e\7S6g\nGS4yK)c}FyDj"Qd}Tn>tU;X2&q;@m!a]NmS\0xuE"VY)USCW8"W
(%3]UljN)^b^Wfn4 O1g lYJ?t;ds%zXLsX-u[9[Xb9Z}&A-LLTW.n]0v*q8@1~CUG^CC#hZb[)b21MzN;vVG*I;gynS5euR-T8Ff)f)&Z(@307T"yjqY9mpP&(6el1]mQe.EF'(Kgx8nh+o(1sL7\])n\ Update for my erie county pistol permit applicant friends i was called by the p.p. A forum community dedicated to all New York firearm owners and enthusiasts. Greetings from a newly UNRESTRICTED Erie county permit holder. To apply for New York gun license, you must meet the gun laws' requirements, and they are: You must be at least twenty-one years old. The voucher is yours to use until you get your certificate from us. I ran into one of your coworkers at the permit office if this is who I think it is. 4 0 obj
Situation: I have retired as a Military Police Officer after 20 years, and have obtained my Hr 218/LEOSA Identification Card/Credential from the Department of The Army which identifies me as a Retired "Qualified DoD Law Enforcement Officer". : Our Advanced Handgun Firearm Safety class is exactly what you are looking for. I know this topic has come up many times and people have asked about timelines. [400.00-2 (f) Penal Law] 4. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. See the left hand side. I am licensed pistol permit holder since , License Number . I've read many threads on this site, and it's still unsure where Erie County's huge delay is really stemming from. Training and Consulting, LLC, Eight-Hour Pre-Assignment Training Course, Annual Eight Hour Firearms Training Course. I may be going against the grain here (FTWNY did mention he knew this reason worked in the past, which is encouraging in the OP's case), but I would leave out any details of patient retaliation and other job-related hazards that are an issue while you're off-duty, etc. Here is my opinion on this, Most Judges are not concerned with the "potential" of personal safety. Erie County Clerk Helpdesk :help desk software by Jitbit. We will sign you up for a duplicate when you appear at the Pistol Permit Department with a list of your guns which includes the make, caliber and serial number of each gun. Quick steps to complete and eSign Pistol permit application erie county online: Use Get Form or simply click on the template preview to open it in the editor. NYS CONCEALED CARRY LICENSE CLASS: * If you cannot attend the class you sign up for, no problem, we can switch you to any other date or time. It took me so long to get all my references together that one moved before I handed in the app. Process is very, very easy. As an upstanding citizen in the community with high moral and ethical character, I feel I am good candidate for an unrestricted pistol license. lost pistol permit pistol permit stolen. I guess lawful defense of one's own life isn't a valid reason in Erie Countythe OP saves lives for a living, but when it comes to saving his own, the County takes issue with that. EB8,]9aO c,j^8 F:@0_5%n?h2qblp8 LYN![!|D.D"LmK'?~gg|?6J T0{M; =>])mC3X?oseEqKTgCzpE'#"w`x,S:k8_ ])&N;>-Y5UN"yQNApk7>#S v_}S[HC] 4tNiDbje=oAaqdn/Ig1)p'#E'P}TiF>w+)Yr=jm-LW1z they will explain the fingerprinting process to you at the permit office. You must be of good moral character. Im an avid outdoors man, I grew up hunting and target shooting with my father. 3 0 obj
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Any help would be appreciated! I do not know about that county but I do know friends who were retired or ex police officers who moved to NYS both had no problems getting unrestricted permits. It may not display this or other websites correctly. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I submitted the application anyway and received my license, many months later, with no problems. . I put my application in 9/6/12 and had my interview about 12 months after that. Wyoming, Niagara. For more information, please see our Come on up to Orange. Accessibility, (new applicants will automatically be enrolled), Registering\Deleting\Changes\Transfers\Deaths\Lost or Stolen Permits, Instructions to self-certify as a Duly Authorized Instructor in Erie County, https://firearms.troopers.ny.gov/pprecert, Pistol Permit Reissue (Plastic cards: Lost/Stolen, Poor Condition). Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! That's what I did and had no issues. Heres a sample of mine with personal info removed. You must be a legal citizen of the United States of America. My pistol permit has the following restrictions: Security, Target and Hunting, Business Protection, Home Protection. Hey all, had a quick pistol permit question for Erie county. (once referred to as a pistol permit class or handgun safety class). Some say the PD, some say the clerk's office, others say the judge, so who the Hell knows. If you want to cancel and ask for a refund (it must be done more than 48 hours . Erie County Clerk's Office PISTOL PERMIT DEPARTMENT 92 FRANKLIN STREET BUFFALO, NEW YORK 14202 (716) 858-8785 Option #3 C OUNTY OF E RIE MICHAEL P. KEARNS Erie County Clerk UPGRADE AFFIDAVIT - PPU REQUEST FOR PERSONAL and/or BUSINESS PROTECTION ON PISTOL PERMIT Country of Birth Employer D STATE OF NEW YORK SUPREME COURT: County of Erie Full Name We have had 100% success in getting Erie county restrictions removed by students taking this class, for more then 10 years of teaching You do not have to wait any time period to request restrictions be removed. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. All you can really do is submit it and see what happens. The address doesnt list what floor the pistol permit office is on, anyone know which one it is please? You must fill out the County PPA-4R (Rev 9/22) application You must fill out the State PPB-3 (Rev 8/22) application. . Finally got my last reference this past week-- now time to submit! Reaction score. Do I Qualify As A Retired Law Enforcement Officer?. . In order to apply for a pistol permit in Erie County, you must be 21 years of age and be a resident of Erie County. %
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In the application it asks for a reason why I would require an unrestricted/concealed carry permit. This would be convenient for me, however I know a judge will not care about what's convenient for a citizen. [C:@@^ -,3tvS"yP_>QiXF#Fy4X: -mWYt5K9;tW/Dj5[&20 G$^VSUGQ@aP#x 8`AN-Aad9p"lM 7W%LY)&kb8v TA20"n>X,+>=o]^\(+pAh(Xq,TnhB7xiEoe QU(T,L GZ)lf^H$TK Hoping to get some information from this sub. Albany County. What I believe they are concerned with is are you a responsible citizen? The satellite office will be open Wednesdays from 9:00AM- 1:00PM and 2:00PM- 5:00PM. Creation date: 6/21/2022 4:18 PM Updated: 7/7/2022 10:38 AM. You do not have to wait any time period to request restrictions be removed. I submitted my application in the middle of July for unrestricted/ target hunting. If you applied for an unrestricted pistol permit and you only received Target/Hunting or Business and the Judge advised you that you need to take additional training from a qualified instructor to remove restrictions, then our Advanced Handgun Firearm Safety Course (concealed carry class) is the training the Judge is referring to. Creation date: 6/21/2022 4:24 PM . The problem with that migh be if he asks what you company's policy is about carrying and if it is pro 2a or anti. 4 0 obj
Hell, I might even leave something behind. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Cookie Notice FYI I'm over 8 months and my references havent been contacted yet. - Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns . +pr'8/yXOu+RJe"x0'&G*QG3B?!}q&/"&:
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Born and raised in NY but relocated to the midwest (MN) for a year, where I obtained my concealed carry permit. Please return the completed form to:New York State PolicePistol Permit BureauBuilding 221220 Washington AvenueAlbany, New York 12226-2252, *Please Do Not Send Cash in the Mail (Check or Money Order only), Erie County Clerk's Office 92 Franklin StreetBuffalo, New York 14202, ERIE.GOV Just a general "self defense" or "personal protection" isn't good enough with the sitting judge. From day one, I was taught how to safely handle and properly maintain a firearm. %PDF-1.7
Sucks, but getting better. Ok. Remember, the more detailed you are with your reasoning, the more holes the judge may be able to turn up. Letter received - March 18, 2021 -- Day 92 From delivery Unrestricted - Thanks to FTWNY.com, The best Pistol Permit class! I know this topic has come up many times and people have asked about timelines. Pistol Permit ReCertification. My firearms are always locked in a safe, with trigger or action locks, separate from my ammunition. I wish to upgrade my permit to a license to have and carry concealed without restriction. Pistol Permits | Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns Pistol Permits Locations & Hours Buffalo Office: 92 Franklin Street, Buffalo, NY 14202 Monday - Friday 9:00am - 5:00pm Elma Town Hall : Wednesdays 9:00am -1:00pm and 2:00pm -5:00pm ( Plastic Permit Holders Only, Payment with Credit Card Only & Closed 1pm-2pm ) New Applicants The cost of this course is $50.00. Mostly what I hear is having to apply for an amendment in a year or two to get unrestricted, usually after taking the concealed carry course. A change of address requires the permit holder to notify the Pistol Permit Department within 10 days of the change. I know somebody who has one, and I've seen it firsthand. It'll all depend on the judge whether they issue a Target/Hunting permit or Unrestricted permit. Do they mean relatives by blood, or relatives by any connection whatsoever (great uncle-in-law for example)? Do you have any firearms training? Start completing the fillable fields and carefully type in required information. Copyright 2023 Criminal Justice Professionals Training & Consulting, LLC | Powered by Criminal Justice Professionals Training & Consulting, LLC, Criminal Justice Professionals The conceal carry class is deemed an advanced course and requires that participants have obtained a pistol permit prior to enrolling. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I would really like an unrestricted/concealed carry permit but know the likelihood is slim. I understand an unrestricted pistol permit is a privilege and there is an increased responsibility with carrying a concealed firearm. I would suggest though if you haven't had any formal training that you get some because its good to have. "2IfPHA#31x_M5y`8&(c[',5NQ`8i/x1FDh&0!fy|s=9 La N(wOBO.0h"*n6!sPY For example, you can be approved for your permit, take this class and get restrictions removed right away without waiting a year or 5 years like you may have been told. You are using an out of date browser. I just took a look at their website for the location of the office, but they also mention they do pics too for $10. When living upstate would I have to write a letter to a judge asking for unrestricted? Looks good to me. If you are looking for more info about Concealed Carry, gun choices, holster choices, laws and etc. I highly recommend the Firearms Training of WNY course. Chance is pretty slim that you will get unresticted in Erie County. Sounds reasonable to me. if not then I would suggest that you dont say you will get any. JavaScript is disabled. x]oFn ".bfCE6q(B#yes/RnoXyy3i/7%D=o>,p,
Xl/:|{ExeZpd-ZE&Ml$LRY zf72CHgIT:4QAsGYt~A|4:l,5Kd7~125c k")Ns//TG2={m^Ke%4;Al&tqq8Z#$zj3? Cookie Notice When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. 3. However, the County Clerk's Office would be happy to assist: You may go to the NYS Police website athttps://firearms.troopers.ny.gov/pprecert and complete the online recertification or you may print the form and mail it to the NYS Police. To put that number in perspective, New York State Police data suggests Erie County has the second highest compliance. SsFA* (Pu+l2tu9?,d91U#qcf9` He will upgrade a permit after a few years or if you take a class, but you need a good reason to get one from the start. Im an upstanding citizen in the community with high moral and ethical character, as well as a dedicated family man to my wife and XX children. I feel my request for an unrestricted carry license is warranted. Please note that this office is unable to recommend specific instructors. I got my letter today. Hoping to get wither a Glock 19 or Sig P365 tomorrow. Site Map Use the Cross or Check marks in the top toolbar to select your answers in the list boxes. Fled the People's Republic of New York Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. Hey all, just wanted to give an update on the wait times for Erie County's Pistol Permit wait time: Delivered - December 16, 2020 . We were told it would take about four months to get the decision. There some places you should not put your junk into and this is one of them!! Privacy Policy. Please find my most recent certificate attached. The Licensing Officer recommends that you take a conceal carry class from a certified instructor in addition to the mandatory safety course. The last person filled out the state application in blue pen after i handed them my black pen-- then went over it in black after i noticed it.
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