Just take a little trip down the hellhole that is a tabloids message boards and youll see the kind of body shaming of male and female actors and celebrities that exists out there.
Doug Jones Transforms into Star Trek: Discovery's Saru | Star Trek Martin-Green says she has come to accept changes in her body, especially after the birth of her second child shortly before production on season three: With my first pregnancy I bounced back without trying (which is a crime, by the way, that we expect women to do that after birth rather than focus on healing). STAR TREK and its various marks are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. 2023 CBS Studios Inc./Paramount Pictures Corp. 2006-2023 SciFanatic Network | Legal/Privacy Info, Copyright 2023 | MH Newsdesk by MH Themes, Podcast: All Access Dives Into The Latest Episode Of Picard And Probes Star Treks TV (And Movie) Future, BREAKING: Star Trek: Discovery To Conclude With Season 5, Review: Star Trek: Picard Runs Deep In Seventeen Seconds, Watch Picard And Riker Reverse Their Classic Roles In Star Trek: Picard Episode 303 Clip, J.J. Abrams Talks Compelling Story For Star Trek 4; Chris Pine Expresses Frustration Over Wait, I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. What tradition do you speak of? Tilly is the product of lazy writing and a lazy showrunner. Star Trek: Discovery streams exclusively on CBS All Access in the United States and is distributed concurrently by CBS Studios . Its so brutal. Especially when there were just so many more qualified people for the job on and off the ship. Mary Wiseman (born July 30, 1985) is an American actress. Somewhere in the bowels of Secret Hideout, they invented a computer program that can cobble together scripts that fit various parameters. Its shall we say very variable. But its at least nice they came to their senses with that ridiculous story turn (unlike Kirk). She hasnt mentored anyone except in one episode. Harry wasnt annoying watching him was just sad :-D. Im glad for you that you didnt find him annoying. What was your point to this comment, anyway, except to minimize and dismiss support for plus-size women? Im sorry but what youve described about Tilly is like something out of a Nickelodeon teen high school drama. Its a problem in even some least developed countries now. That was always the theory I had for Barclay. Yes but Star Trek shouldnt be about lazy writing, poor character development and bad storytelling. Because she symbolizes the Trekkies, geeks, nerds. He was in the Travis Mayweather category. I could watch Tilly all day! Shes a geeky, nerdy character, so wonderfully over the top, like so many of us in the fandom. What I should point out though is that Mack earned the moniker Angel of Death among the Litverse fans. Jack perhaps you were at the Dave Chappelle protest screaming Judas, you are starting to sound like the type who gets sensitive over everything. )Granted, I think the special effects, space battles, bizarre technology and explosions are the proverbial tail wagging the dog, but thats always been the case, and is increasingly expected in these post-Star Wars, high tech decades. Mary Wiseman: That was a really good teaser. Internationally, the series is available on Paramount+ in Australia, Latin America and the Nordics, and on Pluto TV in Austria, France, Germany . I absolutely love Tilly/Killy. So sayeth Scotty, the contrarian. My suspicion is they farm this out to sweatshops somewhere in Asia. 108 comments so far. Im glad for you that you didnt find him annoying. I would ask our family doctor, Is there anything you can give me thatll make me gain weight?'. It seems like people like her say: this is me. I like Tilly but shes not my favourite character. I just wonder if maybe they are adapting the basic idea to what we are seeing in Prodigy since the Protostar couldve been part of the Full Circle program and was sent back to the DQ for a specific mission? Nibiru? Jerks. If you read what Mary and Sonequa are saying, they arent promoting any particular body style or fitness choice, just that they are as they are and only they have the right to choose how that should be. Tillys great contribution is that shes NOT that sort of superwoman most people can never be. She wrote ten books based around this concept and still writing them.
Sylvia Tilly (mirror) | Memory Alpha | Fandom I see those things and they hurt me because Im a person.
Tilly and Me - Star Trek No one of my Trekkie friends, growing up with TNG watch this anymore. What is wrong, pretty bad to read, is fans mocking the actors, it is actually very sexist, not cool. [1] Early life [ edit] Wiseman is the youngest daughter of Dorothy and Kevin Wiseman and has three older brothers. I dont love her the way I love Saru or Pike, or Janeway or Seven or Picard or Spock. Marys my TV crush for the last 3 years. And I just let the writers take me on a journey. I think you are talking jibberish. As far as science fiction most Trek shows have normal looking ppl. Shaming is one thing. Shes supposed to set the example. And to have somebody step in and defend you is really meaningful. I think the ship can handle a little chonk. You made very good points and I do agree. advantage. Not everyone is going to agree with you in life but to accuse others of sullying the memories of people they didnt know existed until you replied to their posts may provoke far more negative responses. Oh, I think its fine they had a counselor on the SHIP; I just think its weird they had her on the BRIDGE. Youve got to hand it to Harry Kim. I always felt that I wanted hips and a butt. Learning? What? Star Trek: Discovery Season 5 May Be Coming Soon, According To Wilson Cruz [UPDATED], Podcast: All Access Scans For All The Latest Star Trek Universe News, Star Trek Lower Decks Nominated For Annie Award; Discovery For NAACP And GLAAD Awards, http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/trekmovie.com/podcast-player/97519/all-access-picard-episode-303-seventeen-seconds-review-discovery-ending-future-of-star-trek-discussion.mp3, http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/trekmovie.com/podcast-player/97356/shuttle-pod-113-star-trek-picard-season-3-chat-on-the-next-generation-disengage.mp3, http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/trekmovie.com/podcast-player/97216/all-access-review-of-star-trek-picard-episode-302-disengage.mp3, http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/trekmovie.com/podcast-player/96813/all-access-review-of-star-trek-picard-episode-301-the-next-generation.mp3, http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/trekmovie.com/podcast-player/96521/all-access-suplimental-john-billingsley-interview.mp3. Smart doesnt mean competent. TrekMovie.com is not endorsed, sponsored or affiliated with CBS Studios Inc., Paramount Pictures Corp. or the Star Trek franchise. But how the women look?! Her message was not that its okay to be overweight (and shes really not that overweight, nor should it really matter), but simply thats it okay to be her flaws and all.
'Star Trek: Discovery' Season 4 Episode 13 Recap: A - TVLine When a show blankets the airwaves with hugs and confessionals and cheering it tends to make any subtler moments stand out far less, but this is also not a subtle show to begin with. Its all relative, but I dont see a lot of actors being body-shamed. Not everyone is skinny and not everyone likes skinny. Although the last TNG with Trois mom wasnt terrible. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Waste of talent. I did, though. "Hope springs eternal" was the central thesis for Star Trek: Discovery's Season 4 finale . That could explain the weight gain. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. She isnt back on Discovery. Have to completely agree you T2. Its really just certain comments sections and Facebook garbage holes. I think others that make such claims are having their own feel feels hurt or nostalgia rattled. Plus, TNG literally had a therapist as part of the bridge crew. It feels too 21st century specific as does Tillys. But was it not made pretty clear that Counselors had become a regular thing on command crews in the TNG era?
Star Trek: Discovery Season 4 Episode 4 Recap Is Tilly Leaving? | TVLine Thats just a matter of preference. The U.S.S. Tilly should have been introduced as female Barclay or a less extreme version of junior lieutenant Picard in Tapestry (the alternate timeline where his career stalled after avoiding getting stabbed in the heart). It explains why each scene is half-redundant and half-contradictory with the others within the same episode. Agree. It would definitely be great if Rhys was promoted to first officer. And tons dont. out of shape for the job shes in and the role she wanted to perform. Troi made explicit the evil intent lies we tell each other and ourselves to gain selfish material and political advantage. Tilly is Trekdom. It doesnt look like unhealthy curvy but just different type of genes.
Is Tilly leaving 'Discovery'? Star Trek star explains that shocking They told us and a handful of other outlets what to expect for their characters and more. STAR TREK and its various marks are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. 2023 CBS Studios Inc./Paramount Pictures Corp. 2006-2023 SciFanatic Network | Legal/Privacy Info, Copyright 2023 | MH Newsdesk by MH Themes, Podcast: All Access Dives Into The Latest Episode Of Picard And Probes Star Treks TV (And Movie) Future, BREAKING: Star Trek: Discovery To Conclude With Season 5, Review: Star Trek: Picard Runs Deep In Seventeen Seconds, Watch Picard And Riker Reverse Their Classic Roles In Star Trek: Picard Episode 303 Clip, J.J. Abrams Talks Compelling Story For Star Trek 4; Chris Pine Expresses Frustration Over Wait. (Hey, Im likely one of the oldest people here, and its too easy/lazy to remain stuck in the 1960s and 70s! Keep up the great work ladies! Tillys character arc was mishandled once they realized Mary Wiseman was cast (Marys a decade or more older than Tilly). The Trek Collective has a flowchart for the Litverse which is helpful. I truly do love this show, but Burnham and Tilly are so damn annoying. This is not a good show and not a good Star Trek Show too. Well second most after Burnam , she was fine in season 1 and 2.past 2 seasons theyve rushed her character developmentsame with michael.the vulcan minded human became human real fast. I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. Jealous and insecure,they can only feel better by putting others down. However, in the same interview she also talked about how some fans have not been so supportive in season three: I noticed theres definitely been an uptick in body-shaming towards me and Tilly this season, which was harrowing because Im a person, I have a history and bullying is totally a part of that. David, Can we expect any surprising uses of the special things that Book can do in season four, now that he can control the spore drive? And so she will be part of this universe and this world for many years to come. This is a part of the reason people cant take to them, alongside their poorly written characters. My condolences to you, for your mum. The only writers they need are people who can polish it up enough so that you cant tell its machine-written. Between Marys comments about how Tilly internalizes her experiences as acting First Officer and Captain and the fact that we see Gen Rhys in the big chair in one of the early production stills, does anyone think that Discovery might get Treks first regular series Asian First Officer? And others opinions dont factor in. Biography You cant be a Star Trek fan and also be a racist or a body shamer. What accent? And no one in their right mind would play poker with her. Look at the progression of Nog on DS9 from Quarks juvenile-delinquent nephew in season 1 to Starfleet Ensign in the Dominion War on how writers can make you believe in a characters growth and progression. Not sure what the formal CBS/Paramount process is for publishing that kind of stuff, but the story was so detailed that I genuinely wanted to begin looking into it. Therefore, I love her. Harry wasnt annoying. but it looks like she did simply did it because she was her friend and room mate. Please back up your statement. Of course my original statement still stands regarding Tilly becoming Sarus Number One. I saw someone just last month asking on a Facebook fanpage if Starfleet had some kind of physical fitness standard and if so, shes violating it, ect.the same old idiotic abusive misogyny disguised as genuine concern. I dont read the same type of criticism for their male actors. Actually, the production team is not helping either. Thank you for your counter opinion. Just more pandering. Tilly appears twice in the Star Trek: Discovery season 5 trailer. Development for the fifth season of Discovery is well underway, with production expected to begin in June. It just really doesnt fit in this show however. 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Yeah, self absorbed is an excellent way to describe her character, Id never thought of it that way. So many jerks in this world, its good to see decent people.
WATCH: Moments of Discovery - Tilly's Snowglobe | Star Trek Definitely not a dig at the actress, she is only delivering what the directors and producers have asked her to deliver. I just hope now that she has been made captain, all her baggage will be finally gone. First of all, because theres more options for cosplay now, because she changed her hair. As an officer shes supposed to be leader. As an actor of 20 years myself I can say for SMG that her acting ability is affected by her accent and delivery due to her accent . His Voyager appearances were also horrid. That is not anything to diss. Me thinks that your issue is not that fans of nu trek are pandered to to feel better about themselves. . In fact most iterations of Trek the actors have provided a neutral delivery of their native accent. I'm finding Star Trek Discovery to be incredibly dull and childish. PS. I lovvvve Lilly/Tilly and her curves. Editor's note, 23 Dec 2020: If you like Wiseman's interview here, then you should also check out interviewer Dawn Ennis's other work. Assuming you are American, Im from outside America where it makes a huge difference in how the characters comes across.America is not the world as Morrissey once said. The burden is now on SNWThat show can either make or break it with regards to these issues. My point is, a lot of the shamers are probably ashamed of themselves for being overweight and project it onto others. I agree! | December 23, 2020 | I wonder if there is any news that she might be pregnant. Keep up with all the news and reviews from the newStar Trek Universe on TV at TrekMovie.com. Sonequa is a great actress. Just grow up and ignore the random internet comments you are elevating the drama of this internet troll thing by talking about it. Mary Wiseman: I wish there maybe in the future theres room for some protective best friend/boyfriend energy. Its not SMGs fault of course, its just the way she has be written throughout the series. Sorry TM, its MY fault! And its funny that you bring up needing constant therapy as a bad thing when a ton of real life people see a therapist on a regular basis. And now, with only three years under her belt in the field, only two of which were as a ranked officer, they think shes somehow ready to train the next generation of recruits?! And over the last couple of years, so have I. Im still not fond of the gory, violent Klingon business of the first couple of seasons, but I slowly began to see DISCO anew. There are a lot of people in the comments hating, but in a franchise that includes Neelix, Wesley Crusher, Naomi Wildman, Kes, and Lwaxana Troi, Tilly is frankly nowhere near as annoying as those other characters. David Ajala: Legit, its still very palpable here. Why did they do that? The laughing, alone, is far more damaging and shameful and disgusting and disrespectful than obesity itself. All Access Star Trek Podcast, Discovery, DS9, Lower Decks, Section 31, Star Trek 4, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. It just came to me and wanted your opinion. I notice that for whatever reason certain words will trigger the language to switch to French on my phone, and then I have to go back and correct everything. I admit, has been a roller coaster between each season. Its not celebrating obesity to say that her body is her business and nobody elses. The audience is growing due to our amazing loyalty, but I give them credit toobecause Discovery, we have all these new shows. Its intolerance in its most basic form, and anyone who engages in, advocates for, or turns a blind eye and deaf ear to it are examples of the worst humanity has to offer, and most certainly have no business calling themselves a Star Trek fan. But respect is always earned and never enforceable. Plus, TNG literally had a therapist as part of the bridge crew. Maybe its just me, but I dont really care about women or mens weight on TV shows, I dont care for negative comments on them by haters, but neither do I care for the actors/actresses making such a whiney big deal about it. Her body shape is fabulousshe is gorgeous. And if people are critical of her because her appearance does not meet their expectations, they dont really have a clue of what Star Trek is all about. Probably some admirals cousin.
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